The Engineer beard oil is just another great consistent feel in beard. Fable really has it dialed in. And the balm is just the same.The hold is light to medium. This is not going to be one of my favorite scents. The added bonus of the scent is just not quite there. The clove bud here is the dominating scent. The citrus blend is almost nonexistent and that is too bad. This would be another incredible creation from the wizard if the clove was dialed back a hair and the citrus blend accented more. If you like a spicy scent then this one is must buy.